Thumper REDARC DC Battery Box 'Classic' model | Multi-Chemistry

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This model battery box has been designed to suit all battery chemistries.
Altering the charging profile from AGM / GEL to LITHIUM is now as simple as changing one spade connection inside the lid of this battery box and that's it!

Available to purchase in multiple packages such as the DC box only, or packages to include Lithium or AGM batteries! 

This unique battery box design is packed with numerous features and outlet sockets to accommodate for every individual.

KEY FEATURES

  • Built with the Redarc BCDC25D DC charger
  • Designed to suit new model vehicles with smart / variable alternators
  • Compatible with older model vehicles
  • Designed to increase low voltage output from vehicle to allow battery to reach 100% 
  • Designed to isolate from vehicle's main start battery once ignition is switched off
  • Designed with an independent Anderson connector for vehicle input
  • Designed with an independent Anderson connector for solar panel input (regulated connection - up to 400-450watts of solar)
  • Internally wired and protected with circuit breaker protection, allowing for an easy connection direct to the battery
  • Equipped with multiple outlet sockets for running 12 Volt appliances
  • Available in multiple packages with and without wiring looms / mounting trays and battery.



This particular model suits a DUAL CHEMISTRY of both Lithium & AGM:

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Redarc BCDC1225D 25Amp DC Battery charger (solar and vehicle compatible charge)

- suitable for Lithium / Gel / AGM / Calcium  

2 Marine grade Cigarette socket - rated to 16 Amps
Includes rubber cap design to protect all sockets
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Engel Fridge type socket (2 prong design) - rated to 16 Amps

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USB

Includes 2 x USB-A sockets + 1 x USB-C socket 

2 50 Amp Anderson connectors - Labelled INPUT/OUTPUT
(Bi-directional sockets | 1 x fitted to front of box and 1 x on rear) 
1 50 Amp Anderson connectors - designed purely for solar panel input - labelled "Unregulated solar input"
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50 Amp Anderson connector - designed purely for vehicle (alternator) input - labelled "Alternator input"

Wired with ignition wire for low voltage vehicles. 

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Low Voltage override switch for use with low output vehicles

1 All internal cabling to allow you to simply connect straight to the battery terminals
1 2 year manufacturing warranty

Internal Dimensions:
Length
355 mm
Width 200 mm
Height 222 mm (base only - lid allows for further height) - see pics

External Dimensions:
Length
410 mm
Width 260 mm
Height 280 mm
* Dimensions include all protruding outlet sockets *


The Over-ride Switch (explained) 

Q. Why would i need to install the isolator under the bonnet with this system when the BCDC1225D will act as an isolator anyway? 

It is true that the BCDC1225D will act as an isolator itself. When operating as normal, the BCDC1225D will engage and disengage according to the voltage of the main start battery, which is ultimately determined by the alternator output. This DC charger will work fine as the isolator providing that the vehicle has a voltage output that is constantly > 13.3 Volts. 


There is reason why we provide and recommend to install the isolator under the bonnet of the vehicle with this deluxe box. 
The reason for this is if you choose to use the 'OVERRIDE SWITCH' on the deluxe box. 

The override switch is designed for vehicles that produce < 13.3 Volts. Sometimes this low voltage output is apparent immediately from the starting the vehicle. Other times, it can take 10 - 15 minutes before the vehicle alternator falls below this point. IF the vehicle output falls below 13.3 volts, then the BCDC1225D will 'think' that you have switched off the ignition and it will act to isolate from the vehicle, meaning you will no longer be charging. 

By turning ON the override switch, this will OVERRIDE the voltage activation of the DC charger. It basically means that with the SWITCH ON, the DC charger will charge immediately from the vehicle alternator (regardless of the voltage output of the vehicle alternator). However, when the OVERRIDE switch is on, the ISOLATOR within the DC charger will not operate. 

This is the reason why we provide an additional isolator to install under the bonnet. This under bonnet isolator will then protect you from the possibility of flattening your vehicle starter battery IF you are using the override switch for low output vehicles. 


(Optional wiring loom available in package) 

Components of vehicle wiring loom (TUR-L)

  • 1 x Relay Mount (Fitted with Relay / Midi Fuse Holder / MIDI Fuse)
  • 1 x 6mt length 6mm twin core automotive cable (optional 8mm or 13.5mm upgrade)
  • 1 x Anderson rear box (optional to fit)
  • 1 x Anderson to Anderson 1mt connecting cable
  • 2 x Pk5 small zip-ties
  • 3 x Fuse-Tap options (Mico Fuse / Micro2 Fuse / Mini Fuse)
  • Assortment of lugs / cable joiners / screws

 

Instructions for Fitting:

  • Mount the Anderson rear box in the rear of the vehicle, within 1 metre of where the Thumper will be located.
  • Run the twin core automotive cable (6mm) under the carpet or kick panel from the engine bay to the location of the rear Anderson box. (If the cable has been upgraded to 8mm, then it is recommended to run the cable under the body of the vehicle and secure within split conduit).
  • Using the yellow crimp joiners, connect the Anderson rear box to the twin core cable by crimping both the positive and negative cable into the yellow crimp joiners. Using electrical tape, tape the crimp joiners / cable join for added protection (optional).
  • Fasten the Relay Mount under the vehicle bonnet as close to the main starter battery as possible (within 600mm) - see notes on the fitting the Relay Mount in the above diagram.
  • Using the lugs provided, connect the length of 6mm (or 8mm) cable to the following:
    • The positive (RED) cable will connect to the remaining ring terminal on the Relay Mount (see image above)
    • The negative (BLACK) cable will connect either directly to the negative terminal of the starter battery, or, to the chassis bolt (a chassis bolt may not be fitted to all vehicles) - see notes in image above for more information.
  • Connect the positive cable from the Relay Mount (the RED cable with split conduit) directly to the positive terminal of the starter battery.
  • The remaining thin RED wire on the Relay Mount must connect to an ignition activated power source. An ignition activated source is a positive connection that is live ONLY with the vehicle engine running and holds NO power when the ignition is OFF.
    • For vehicles fitted with rain sensing wipers; it is recommended to use one of the Fuse-Taps provided to replace the fuse and connect this ignition wire.
    • For all other vehicles, an ignition activated source can be located either within the loom to the windscreen wiper motor, or by tapping into the back of a socket (such as a cigarette socket).
  • Connect the Anderson 1mt connecting lead to the Anderson rear box and to the Thumper.
  • Final Step - Testing the charging system
    • Start the vehicle engine and increase the vehicle's RPM to approx 1500-2000 for 3 - 5 seconds. At this stage, allow for your vehicle to idle whilst checking the Thumper voltage. The voltage should start to increase on the Thumper display. --> If the voltage increases at this point, then you have successfully installed the charging system.

 

NOTES FOR RELAY MOUNT:

- The aluminum bracket on the Relay Mount must be mounted to the vehicle’s body. Mounting to the body will provide an earth connection to the relay.

* If the relay mount is fastened to a plastic surface or to a fibreglass body, then an additional earth wire must be connected to the aluminum bracket via one of the mount holes provided.

The Relay Mount is equipped with two optional pre-drilled mount holes. Either hole may be used to fasten the Relay Mount; alternatively, the top foot may be removed, or straightened, to allow for mounting to the rear firewall or side guard of the vehicle.

NOTES FOR IGNITION WIRE:

The Relay Mount has been fitted with an ignition wire. This wire must be fitted to any positive connection that is ONLY live when the vehicle’s ignition is ON. The power feed must hold NO power when the
vehicle’s ignition is OFF.

For vehicles fitted with rain sensing wipers; it is recommended to use one of the Fuse-Taps provided to replace the fuse and connect this ignition wire.

For all other vehicles, the most common ignition source can be found within the windscreen wiper motor loom.

 

Fitting just got easier with our installation video: 

 

 


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Looking to ADD A BATTERY to this package:

Check out our Thumper range of Lithium LiFePO4 batteries to add to this battery box package. Available in 100 AH / 120 AH / 160 AH and include a Bluetooth APP for monitoring 
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What sets this battery a part from others? 

The Thumper Lithium batteries are completely serviceable! That's right! We are so confident in our range of Lithium batteries that you can remove the lid and service the battery or even upgrade the BMS capacity at any stage!

Need to run larger loads from just the one battery? No problem. With the ability to upgrade the BMS, the Thumper 100 AH can allow for a 200 Amp Discharge capacity to supports loads up to 2400 watts!

 

Thumper Lithium LiFePO4 batteries are fully sealed and are designed to be mounted on any angle for easy application.

Equipped with an internal battery management system (BMS), the Thumper Lithium offers safe charging and discharging with over temperature protection, under and over voltage cut off protection and also internal short circuit protection.

The LiFePO4 range of batteries are less than half the weight of a traditional AGM battery, whilst still offering all of the benefits of a heavy duty deep cycle.

These batteries are designed to hold the terminal voltage higher throughout each cycle, resulting in an increase depth of discharge and a longer overall run time with heavier draw appliances.

Click HERE to download the Thumper Spec sheet

 

 

These batteries are quality! Check out the internal BMS on this battery compared to cheaper brands

 

 

Features:

• Less than half the weight of a traditional lead acid battery
• Higher voltage maintained for longer run times with appliances
• Proven quality and reliability
• Compatible with chargers with an AGM or lithium setting
• For best results: Use of a lithium charger is recommended
• 5 year warranty
• Increased cycles compared to traditional lead acid
• Designed to be wired parallel
 Parallel connection is non-limited
• This battery is NOT designed for series linking
• This battery is NOT designed for starting purposes or under bonnet applications
 In built Bluetooth monitoring system! 

*Please note that all upgrade options to BMS are modified after purchase and will incur 24 hours delay in dispatch time 

 

Technical Specifications:

Model No. TL100
Nominal Voltage 12.8 V
Rated Capacity 100 AH
Cell Type / Chemistry Prismatic / LiFePO4
Bluetooth
Yes
IP Rating IP65

 

Dimensions and Weight:

Length 328 mm
Width 172 mm
Height (Total) 220 mm
Weight 9.75 Kg

 

Operating Temperature Range:

 

BMS High temp cut out / Reconnect 80˚C   /   50˚C 
Discharge -20˚C ~ 60˚C
Charge -20˚C ~ 45˚C
Storage -5˚C ~ 35˚C

 

Charging Methods:

Recommended Charge Current  10 ~ 50 Amps
Max Charge Current 70 Amps

 

Discharge:

Max discharge current (continuous) 100 Amps *upgrade available
Peak discharge current (1-3 seconds) 300 Amps
BMS Current cut off >100.5A 10s
BMS Current cut off >120.0A 3s
BMS Current cut off >150.0A 1s
BMS Voltage cut off / Reconnect 10.0V    /     12.0V
Self Discharge per month: ≤3%
Warranty 5 years from date of purchase | as of June 2023

 

Bluetooth APP:

The App offers the ability to monitor and control:

  • Battery capacity
  • Battery Voltage
  • Percentage remaining capacity (Example: 0% - 100%)
  • Battery charging current
  • Battery discharge current
  • Battery output disconnect
  • Battery charge disconnect
  • Auto cell calibration
  • Auto cell protection
  • Estimated time remaining
  • Estimated charging time
  • AH capacity remaining
  • Total cell balancing
  • High cell voltage
  • Low cell voltage
  • Cell voltage difference
  • Monitoring of dual battery sensors
  • Ability to parallel link and re-program AH capacity (passcode required)

 

Bluetooth App - THUMPER BATTERIES

The Thumper App can be found in your APP store as a free download. 

Note: Some features of the APP are only available with a passcode 

  Bluetooth App | Control Screen - Explained:

The Bluetooth app offers the ability to control the charge or discharge loads from the battery by remotely switching ON / OFF the power via the Bluetooth App.

To turn either your charge or discharge loads off, simply switch the blue toggle (blue = ON) to instead show a blacked out toggle.  

CHARGE SWITCH  - to remotely disconnect all charge loads from the battery. Turning this particular switch OFF will prevent the battery from taking a charge load from any charging source, including the DC battery charger.

DISCHARGE SWITCH  - to remotely disconnect all discharge loads from the battery. Turning this particular switch OFF will prevent the battery from running any appliance as it disconnects all loads from the battery. This is the perfect option to use when storing the battery.

 

Common Questions & Answers:

What type of Lithium battery is the Thumper?

The Thumper is a Lithium LiFePO4 Prismatic battery.

Is the Thumper Lithium a Deep cycle? 

Yes! The Thumper Lithium is designed to be continually charged and discharged fr the purposes of running all accessories, such as fridges, lighting, inverters and more.

What size Inverter can I run from the 100 AH / 120 AH Lithium?

Both the Thumper Lithium 100 AH has a continual discharge rate of 100Amps (1200watts) and the 120 AH has 120 Amp discharge rate as standard. The batteries also have a MAX peak discharge of 300 Amps for 1-3 seconds (surge capacity).

This means that if you are using only one battery, then the maximum Inverter size that would successfully run on the Thumper 100 AH would be a 1200watt / 120 AH would be 1440 watts.

Need a bigger BMS? We can upgrade our BMS boards to higher capacity, so you can run larger appliances from the one battery! See our drop down link for upgrade options on the BMS. 

How many batteries do I need to run my Inverter?

  150 watt Inverter ~ 1200 watt Inverter = 1 Battery with a 100 Amp BMS

1201 watt Inverter ~ 2400 watt Inverter = 1 Battery with 200 Amp BMS or 2 x Batteries with 100 Amp / 120 Amp BMS 

2401 watt Inverter ~ 4800 watt Inverter = 2 x Batteries with 200 AMP BMS or 3 x Batteries with 120 Amp BMS 

What would happen if I run over the discharge rating? 

The Thumper Lithium is protected internally with a BMS (Battery Management System), meaning that it will protect the battery against overcharge / low voltage and excessive discharge drain.

Example: If you connect a 2000 watt Inverter (166Amp total draw) to the Thumper Lithium battery, then the battery would allow you to run UP TO 1200watts (100Amps) from the Inverter. If the draw exceeded this 100 Amps, then the BMS inside the battery would disconnect and cease providing power to your system.

Once the load has been disconnected from the battery, the BMS will reconnect itself within a few seconds and the battery will be ready to use again.

Can I mount the Lithium battery on its side?

Yes! The Lithium battery is completely sealed and is designed to allow you to mount on any side.

Do I need Lithium charger (240 Volt / DC charger)?

As with any Lithium battery, it is recommended (when possible) to use a lithium battery charger. Lithium Battery charger chargers charge the battery at a slightly higher voltage and run through compatible charging stages to suit the Lithium's chemistry. Charging your battery with a Lithium compatible charger will help to prolong the life of your Lithium battery by ensuring it is receiving a full rate of charge.

In stating the above, the Thumper Lithium range of batteries are designed to be able to charge from an AGM battery setting.

Can I use my portable solar panel on the Thumper Lithium Battery?

The Thumper Lithium is designed to charge from any system that is compatible to charge from either a Lithium or AGM setting.

Providing your solar regulator is designed to suit Lithium or AGM chemistry, then it would be perfectly suitable to charge from your portable solar panel.

The Thumper Lithium Battery will not charge from an unregulated panel as the internal BMS will disconnect any input charge that exceeds 15 Volts.

What is the life expectancy of the Thumper Lithium battery?

The Thumper Lithium is rated over cycles. A cycle is the process of charging and discharging the battery. The Thumper Lithium is rated to a minimum of 2000 cycles.

Can I wire the Thumper Lithium in Parallel?

Yes! Both the Thumper 100 AH & 120 AH are designed to be wired in parallel and are non-limited. This means you can build your 12 volt system as large as you desire with use of these batteries!

Can I link a Thumper Lithium 100 AH to a 120 AH ?

No. As the BSM is different in both the 100 AH and the 120 AH, it means the two batteries are not designed to be linked to one another.

Can I wire the Thumper Lithium in Series?

Wiring in series converts a 12 Volt battery into either a 24Volt / 36Volt or 48Volt system (depending on how it is wired)

The Thumper 100 AH is designed to run in series from 12-48V max 4 in series, no limit in parallel.

Can the Thumper Lithium Battery be used for starting purposes?

We now offer an upgrade option for a 200 Amp START BMS (only available by Phone inquiry 08 8391 3121) 

What voltage is fully charged in a Lithium Battery?

Approx 13.2 ~ 13.4 Volts is 100% charged in a Lithium battery.

The Thumper Lithium 100 AH now comes includes a in built BLUETOOTH monitoring device. Simply download the free Bluetooth app to accurately monitor the state of charge in a Lithium battery set up.

What voltage is FLAT in the Thumper Lithium Battery

Using voltage to monitor the state of charge in a lithium battery is unfortunately not accurate.

As the voltage in a lithium battery remains higher throughout the cycle life of the battery, it means that Thumper Lithium will read in the 12's when it is nearing the end of it's capacity. When the remaining capacity of the battery has been exhausted, the battery's BMS will disconnect and the battery will shut down.

Can I use a normal Volt meter to monitor my Lithium Battery set up?

The short answer to this is Yes, and No.

A voltage meter will provide you an 'indication' on the state of charge on a lithium battery. However, the slightest change in the digital reading of voltage can mean over 50% of your battery's capacity.

The most accurate method to monitor a lithium battery is by the use of the free bluetooth app available in your App store.

What does the 12.8V on the front of the battery represent?
Much the same as how a lead acid battery is configured, The Thumper lithium battery is constructed using a multiple of smaller cells linked internally.

The Thumper Lithium is built using a string of 4 x 3.2Volt cells, linked in series, to make up the 12.8Volt.



What is the warranty of the Thumper Lithium battery?
Now with 5 year warranty from date of original purchase | as of June 2023

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